Shoulder bump

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TD-Max
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Shoulder bump

Post by TD-Max »

This operation is something that I have not previously paid much attention to, but due to bolt close issues with my 22-250 recently became aware of. Problem is, I can't seem to get my Forster die to move the shoulder on my 204 brass. I even took the die to a lapping block and honed the snout a couple thousandths. Die is adjusted as short as I can go and still get handle closed. I also tried with it adjusted tighter yet.


I'm using the Hornady measuring fixture. The one thing that I did not measure was if the case length was shortening as in the shoulder was maybe moving, but not where the tool measured.
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acloco
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Re: Shoulder bump

Post by acloco »

Hmmm...

Is there a gap between the shellholder and bottom of the die when you have a case all the way in the die? If so, need to adjust die down some more.

If it is contacting the shellholder, I would take some material off of the shell holder.

....or...you have a short(ish) chamber and a long(ish) cut die.
TD-Max
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Re: Shoulder bump

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Yes it fully contacts the shellholder and with solid force. On the Co-ax trimming the shellholder is not really practical.

I'll call Forster and see what they say. Could be short chamber/long die like you said.
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acloco
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Re: Shoulder bump

Post by acloco »

Do you have one of the cartridge length gauges (now made by Hornady)?

You can measure from the shoulder to the base of the case to determine how much a case is growing when fired and how much you are bumping the shoulder back.

You could invert a 308 shell - so the mouth of the shell contacts the shoulder. Compare against a new case, a fired case, and a sized case.
TD-Max
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Re: Shoulder bump

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I fired a few rounds yesterday with both of my 204's so I'll look at them and see how they compare for starters.

Yes I have the Stoney Point/Hornady tools.

I'm thinking that my once fired brass grew little to nothing on the headspace gauge.
Sako VLSS Set Trigger in .204 with Leupold VXIII 4.5-14x50 LR
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bpratl
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Re: Shoulder bump

Post by bpratl »

acloco wrote:Hmmm...
Is there a gap between the shellholder and bottom of the die when you have a case all the way in the die? If so, need to adjust die down some more.
If it is contacting the shellholder, I would take some material off of the shell holder.
I agree 100%....taking a few thou off the bump die base solved my bump problem.
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