Hello all. I'm sure this topic has been discussed & cussed many times before but it's about your opinions on breaking in a new barrel. I just got in my new Cooper M54 HB 22-250 & was just thinking of how I'm going to break the barrel in. I have done the long 1/2 day process & I've also done 10 shots & clean for 40 rounds and called it quits in previous rifles. I'm not sure if I can tell the difference one way or the other. What's your opinions? I don't put rounds down the tube fast & do a moderate cleaning after every range session until about 200-300 rounds when I do a long complete cleaning. Do you think break-in is more to promote ease of cleaning & fouling or for accuracy or both? Your thoughts & opinions will be appreciated. Good shooting,
Jim D
NEW BARREL BREAK-IN ???
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Re: NEW BARREL BREAK-IN ???
Oh Boy...a new Cooper. Congrats. First one???
I've always figured that every Cooper comes to you with a minimum 4 shots down the barrel. I'm sure they don't clean between shots. I take a middle of the road approach and shoot 5 then clean, then repeat. The barrel tells me when it's ready. Some come clean and copper free in 20-30 shots. Some take a little longer. Strange as it sounds, I think I can feel the barrel breaking in based on how the patch feels going down the bore. I'm mostly looking for copper and trying to make sure I'm not burnishing it in to the barrel.
Use a good bore guide (Lucas) and whatever chemicals you feel do the job.
I've always figured that every Cooper comes to you with a minimum 4 shots down the barrel. I'm sure they don't clean between shots. I take a middle of the road approach and shoot 5 then clean, then repeat. The barrel tells me when it's ready. Some come clean and copper free in 20-30 shots. Some take a little longer. Strange as it sounds, I think I can feel the barrel breaking in based on how the patch feels going down the bore. I'm mostly looking for copper and trying to make sure I'm not burnishing it in to the barrel.
Use a good bore guide (Lucas) and whatever chemicals you feel do the job.
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Re: NEW BARREL BREAK-IN ???
Thanks dsandfort. Yes sir, my 1st center fire Cooper. It has the new HS Precision stock with cooling vents, black with lots of blue webbing, & a 26" 1-14 twist non-fluted heavy barrel. It's a looker. I've already put in a 10 ounce Jard trigger but haven't shot yet. Cooper's recommended break-in is shoot 5 shots and clean 4 times for a total of 20 rounds. Thanks again,
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Re: NEW BARREL BREAK-IN ???
You'll like that Jard. Store the Cooper separately, preferably in another room. They have a tendency to multiply.
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Re: NEW BARREL BREAK-IN ???
Sage advice, not that I knew Cooper's way, but about the manner in which I break in a barrel. Other barrel makers suggest very similar or slightly diffenrent, but they all work, Just slow and easy for the first few shots and do not over heat the barrel. And yes you will like that Jard Trigger, I have some and they work very well. Bill K
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Re: NEW BARREL BREAK-IN ???
Congratulations on the new Cooper! I used to go into a shop in Boise quite a bit that stocked Coopers. They sure are fine rifles!
Barre break-in is a thing that has come about because people want it. It was 'invented' by a competitor of Gale McMillan's (that according to McMillan in a years-old public posting) to sell more barrels, since every round down a barrel uses up a percentage of its useful life. However, it has persisted because a significant number of people _want_ there to be a break-in procedure. They want to have a procedure, so the salesmen sell them what they want. Is there any harm in that? Whether you _want_ there to be benefit or harm will be far and away the largest determinant of whether there's any harm in it, or any help.
My break-in routine is: Go shoot. When I'm done, I clean the barrel and see how it is. If I shot, say, 20 or 30 rounds and clean-up takes 2 hours, I'll be disappointed. Maybe I'll scrub it with bore paste or something like that, or maybe I'll just shoot it a little more at a little higher rate of fire next time. Or maybe not.
Barre break-in is a thing that has come about because people want it. It was 'invented' by a competitor of Gale McMillan's (that according to McMillan in a years-old public posting) to sell more barrels, since every round down a barrel uses up a percentage of its useful life. However, it has persisted because a significant number of people _want_ there to be a break-in procedure. They want to have a procedure, so the salesmen sell them what they want. Is there any harm in that? Whether you _want_ there to be benefit or harm will be far and away the largest determinant of whether there's any harm in it, or any help.
My break-in routine is: Go shoot. When I'm done, I clean the barrel and see how it is. If I shot, say, 20 or 30 rounds and clean-up takes 2 hours, I'll be disappointed. Maybe I'll scrub it with bore paste or something like that, or maybe I'll just shoot it a little more at a little higher rate of fire next time. Or maybe not.
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Re: NEW BARREL BREAK-IN ???
When I got my Cooper, I followed the break-in procedure that came with the rifle. Yes it is tedious, but I have to believe that it worked out really well. After a day in the rat patch and sometimes over 100 rounds down range launching said rats, the rifle is a lot easier to get clean. Patches down the tube run a lot easier, no matter bore cleaner or copper cleaner. As for accuracy, my 20VT Cooper shoots bug holes at 100 yards, with confirmed kills with a laser range finder, out to 450 yards. Maybe it was barrel break-in or just being a Cooper, I can't say for sure. I did change the trigger out with a Jard 10oz trigger too. Love my Cooper with the Jard!
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