First of all, I am not trying to start a bullet war just wanting to point out some noticeable changes to the Nosler Ballistic Tip and some of my observations.
When the Nosler Ballistic tip came out and up until recent times they were known as a quick killer, but many complained they were "soft" and came apart too easily. I never had a problem with these characteristics but put them on the same level as the Sierra bullets being accurate, quick kilers but soft. I preferred the Hornady Innerlock bullets due to performance on game and that they displayed a bullet with a "tougher" construction. In the past few years it seems Nosler has thickened the cups on several models(usually using the same blank to draw cups for different bullets in the same caliber). This produced "tough" bullets like the ever more popular 120gr 7mm BT. These bullets seem to perform better than they should. Recently, I have no clue when, it seems Nosler changed the cup and core shape of the BT and thickened the cup and base which in my opinion is a good thing. I cut a few Accubonds and some 308 cal BT to see the construction recently. I noticed that most of the BT I cut shared the same internal shape as the Accubond. My pictures did not turn out well but this picture was posted on another site so I stole it.
From left to right
7mm 120gr BT, 7mm 150gr BT, 7mm 140gr Accubond, .308 168gr BT, .308 180gr BT
Here is a picture of some Nosler bullets with the older internal shape I was refering to.
You can see in this picture some of what I have been witnessing with my own bullet dissections. The 7mm 120gr Bt has a thick cup and traditional style core. They perform very well on game and are known as a tough bullet. The 7mm 150gr BT has the old style cup and core construction. The Accubond and newer BT has a noticeable different shape. The .308 180gr BT is known to be a tough bullet and has a very good reputation.
I have always been a big fan of 165gr bullets out of my 30-06 rifles. Recently I have been looking at the new 168gr BT and after cutting one apart and seeing it shares the same design characteristics as the well respected 180gr BT I am excited. I hope I can find a load that shoots as well as the 165gr BT and 165gr Accubond and I am expecting it to perform very well. Enough of my babbling, what are your thoughts and observations?
Nosler Ballistic Tips, Noticeable Changes
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Re: Nosler Ballistic Tips, Noticeable Changes
Good stuff.Thanks for taking the time to post it.
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Re: Nosler Ballistic Tips, Noticeable Changes
ACLakey...........Very nice!! I loaded for a friend who uses a 30/06 and I loaded Nosler 180 BT for him. He used 3 rounds to check zero and the rest on deer. I haven't recovered a bullet yet. One shot one deer, they fold up on the spot. Nosler Accubonds group nice out of my .338WM (225grn) so I got 160's for my 7X57, 200's for my 300 Wby imp, and 150's for my 300 Savage to try. So I got a good range of velocities to try them at. We'll keep you posted on the results
I haven't use Hornadys much. Mainly Nosler and Sierra.
Later
Ray P
I haven't use Hornadys much. Mainly Nosler and Sierra.
Later
Ray P
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Re: Nosler Ballistic Tips, Noticeable Changes
My experiences with 165 green tip 308 Nosler's has been out standing. Examples are I shot a doe at 482yrds. bullet expanded nicely at that range and had a exit wound hole of about two inches. This was through the ribs and cut the top of the heart, she traveled 10ft and DRT.
But here is where that bullet made a believer out of me. My son and I were overlooking a large pond dam, when a very, very nice 10 point walked up on top. This is a Kansas buck and I mean a heavy one. Well I let my son take the shot with a 308 Win. and by the time he got the shot off the buck turned at the last minute when the shot broke. The bullet hit the right knee joint, entered the chest cut the heart in two, and traveled upwards and out the left hind quarter. The buck was about 140yrds form us. He took one step.
This bullet has been a good performer at longer yardages, and tough enough to hang in in their after busting a knee joint. Thumbs up from me!
Sand Rat
But here is where that bullet made a believer out of me. My son and I were overlooking a large pond dam, when a very, very nice 10 point walked up on top. This is a Kansas buck and I mean a heavy one. Well I let my son take the shot with a 308 Win. and by the time he got the shot off the buck turned at the last minute when the shot broke. The bullet hit the right knee joint, entered the chest cut the heart in two, and traveled upwards and out the left hind quarter. The buck was about 140yrds form us. He took one step.
This bullet has been a good performer at longer yardages, and tough enough to hang in in their after busting a knee joint. Thumbs up from me!
Sand Rat