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Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:03 pm
by RowdyYates
SactoBill wrote:I just got off the phone with Shirley at Coopers and they fixed the extractor and shipped it back to me on the same day!

Awesome service! I can wait to take her out for some long awaited shooting session.
Let's see Savage, Remington, Ruger, etc. offer service like that! Another reason why Coopers aren't as expensive as people believe....

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:23 pm
by Rick in Oregon
Rowdy: Right you are, bud. Add this to the excellent CS Cooper offers:

The last full-custom rat rifle I built around a M700, shoots in the .2's (223AI), cost: $2,800

The last new Cooper M21 MTV rat rifle purchased, shoots in the .2's (204R), cost: $1,600

People seem to whine about the cost of Coopers, but from where I sit, they seem like a purty good bargin by the time all the dust settles. (Have you seen the new Cooper M51 repeater for 223-based cartridges yet?.......sweet! :D )

(And for you Savage lovers.....don't bother responding, there's more to it than just accuracy, and you know what I mean. No offense, just facts. Don't hate me, it's JMO)

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:14 am
by Bill K
Wish I could find a Cooper for $1600. they are running around $2300 everywhere I check.. :wall: Bill K

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:27 am
by Rick in Oregon
Bill K wrote:Wish I could find a Cooper for $1600. they are running around $2300 everywhere I check.. :wall: Bill K
Bill, that was in spring of 2010 from Sportsman's Whs in Billings, MT. Haven't bought a new one since. Heck, the least I've paid for a Cooper was for my M21 VT 223 Rem....off the used rack at the Nosler Pro Shop for $700, and she's cherry, also shoots in the .2's with her pet load. Doesn't LOOK like a $700 rifle, does it?

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Sometimes even a blind hog finds an acorn, eh? :wink:

With the madness prevailing right now, I doubt we'll ever see the "old" prices again.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:15 am
by Mike
Bill K wrote:Wish I could find a Cooper for $1600. they are running around $2300 everywhere I check.. :wall: Bill K
Bill, what are you looking for? It shouldn't be too difficult to snag a M21 or M22 for substantially less than $2,300.

Whittakers has a whole slew of Cooper rifles in various configurations, and the majority of them are well under the $2,300 mark.

http://www.whittakerguns.com/

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:35 pm
by Bill K
Rick.. Not one bit, that is a sweet deal.. Mike,
Just looking around and checking various sourses, for starters, most likely a 20VT. Bill K :)

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:42 pm
by RowdyYates
Rick in Oregon wrote:Rowdy: Right you are, bud. Add this to the excellent CS Cooper offers:

The last full-custom rat rifle I built around a M700, shoots in the .2's (223AI), cost: $2,800

The last new Cooper M21 MTV rat rifle purchased, shoots in the .2's (204R), cost: $1,600

People seem to whine about the cost of Coopers, but from where I sit, they seem like a purty good bargin by the time all the dust settles. (Have you seen the new Cooper M51 repeater for 223-based cartridges yet?.......sweet! :D )

(And for you Savage lovers.....don't bother responding, there's more to it than just accuracy, and you know what I mean. No offense, just facts. Don't hate me, it's JMO)
I'd settle for just Savage accuracy. The last two Model 25s (admittedly low-end) in .17HH and .22 Hornet shot 3" cold-barrel flyers. Pretty sure what the response from the co. will be: "That's 'normal' for that rifle."
Re. the new M51 Cooper: I'm trying to figure how to buy one as we speak. (Should I sell a couple Remingtons, or maybe my M21 .204 Varminter to help finance a .204 repeater? Decisions, decisions...) Did see where a guy who ordered one expects about a 6 month wait, so I'd better keep the Model 21; no law that says you can't own 2 Coopers the same caliber/chambering, is there? ;) I have $2400 invested in my 2 Coopers, btw, both bought within the past 2 years. Also, http://www.firststopguns.com seems to run decent prices on Coopers.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:02 am
by Bodei
I bought my 20 VT Cooper for $1800. Cliff's GSR in Idaho. They will ship to your FFL. Bad part is the CA sales tax!

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:42 am
by SactoBill
I bought my M38 on GB for slightly over $1600. It was listed as new but I noticed water marked on the stock and the extractor was broken. Still a beautiful rifle though.

I spoke to Cooper and will send in the rifle to get a new Phoenix stock in green with black webbing installed. Then look out little California ground squirrels! :D

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:16 am
by ozfox
love to see a photo of the new stock

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:08 pm
by terrace
I paid $1000 for my 204 phoenix used in great shape. and thanks to this thread,satco bill and rick I am waiting for a M38 phoenix in 20 vartarg to be shipped

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:50 pm
by Bodei
.204, 20 VT and any of the smaller 17 cal's are a great trio to have in the varmint fields!

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:47 am
by Bill K
All I can say to that, even tho there are many calibers that are fun to shoot, is AMEN.. :D :D Bill K

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:56 pm
by SactoBill
Ok so since Bodei brought it up, what 17 would you get? I have two 17 HMR's already so the rimfires are covered. 17 HH or 17 Fireball?

I asked this question on Saubiers and response was mixed.

Re: New 20 VT rifle in the way!

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:13 pm
by Rick in Oregon
Bill, I also shoot a 17 Ackley Hornet and a 17 Mach IV....sameo-sameo......you need both!

Really, if I had to pick one, I'd be in trouble, love 'em both. This is what makes life so wonderful......choices! :D