I have shot 2 of them with the 17 and both have ran off. I am pretty sure they are dead though, cause the diggin' stopped.
skin like a bull
Got that right!!! I thought it would be a grand idea to try to skin it and put it on a backing by following the instructions (:oops:) in the last VHA magazine. It took me forever to cut through the hide.
Rugerdogdog: the mag is a 15 round colt that I got from our local FFL guy. I wouldn't recommend it though, the rounds have been popping out of it when almost completely loaded and when it is not, sometimes I have had 6 of em pop out into the chamber at once

Also, some of the cases have recieved dents from popping out of the magazine. I have tried turning the lips down and that didn't work.