Re: 204 vs cougar
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:40 pm
As far as your original question.......GlennGTR wrote:Has anyone here seen results of the 204 on cougar.Its seems to have alot of energy even enough at 2oo yards.Id only take an ideal shot meaning broadside and most shots here would be under 100 yards.I watched my dad kill one years ago with his 221fireball at about 80 yards.Surely the 204 has more energy and penitration than that 221.
I have recently talked to 3 different guides that are very respected lion outfitters, as I am in the process of planning a hunt. Of course, the question of weapons came up. I told them I had available .223, .204, .243, & .308. They EVERY ONE told me that ANY of the calibers would be acceptable under certain considerations.......(1) I should be able to hit my target in a very accurate manner, (2) It should be a rifle that I am intimately familiar with, & (3) It should be light enough to carry for considerable amounts of time if necessary.
I repeatedly questioned them about the adequacy of the .204 and .223 and they re-assured me that if I was COMPETENT with the weapon it would be of no concern.
Ryan, this isn't the case at all. Speaking in "Industry Standards" the common .204 is a 1:14 twist........308 Win is usually a 1:12 twist........243 Win usually is a 1:12 twist. Even the massive and powerful 416 Rigby comes most commonly in a 1:14 twist (same as most standard factory .204s). The "flying apart" you are referring to is caused by the very thin jackets that most varmint bullets have. Big game bullets commonly have a thicker jacket to retain the bullet in one piece if at all possible.The varmint caliber rifles put a very fast rpm spin on there bullets to cause them to fly apart or make them more fragile. A big game rifle puts a slower RPM on its bullets.
I'm not going to get into the WMR discussion.......
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