Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
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Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
Look for some feedback as to how well these bullets perform on vermin.....what is the "splat factor" like? Recently learned my remington loves these bullets with 10X and I need to know if thier performance warrants thier price tag. Thanks all!
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Re: Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
I just loaded up some of the 40 Bergers for my 4th annual trip to Co. to shoot Prairie Dogs, so I can't tell you about them until June. I can tell you that 50 grain Bergers do a great job on them. I normally shoot 39 BK's in my 1/12 twist and 50's out of my 9 twist rifles, but this year I an going to try the 40 Bergers in the 9 twist to see how they work. As long as they stay together, I am sure they will do just fine. Can you say splat? I can't wait! I will also be using RL 10x behind the 40's.FireBallGuy wrote:Look for some feedback as to how well these bullets perform on vermin.....what is the "splat factor" like? Recently learned my remington loves these bullets with 10X and I need to know if thier performance warrants thier price tag. Thanks all!
Jimmy
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Re: Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
Please......let me know. Going to shelf them for the moment as the summer load has already been selected.
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Re: Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
I will let you know. I did find out today that my 9 twist AR shoots the 40's really well, even from a mag. My 12 twist looks like a shot gun group. But that is ok, because it loves 39 sbk's.FireBallGuy wrote:Please......let me know. Going to shelf them for the moment as the summer load has already been selected.
Jimmy
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Re: Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
I found out today that the 40 grain Berger has a pretty good splat factor. Picture below will verify.
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.204 Ruger M77 Mark II Weaver 6-24
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6BR Dtech Upper, Shilen 1/8 twist.
.222 Rem. BDL Varmint Leupold VX III 6.5-20
.204 Dtech AR 24 in. 1/9 twist SS Fluted Shilen Barrel with Compensator, Leatherwood 8.5-25 uni-dial Also 1/12 twist Shilen. NRA Life Member
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Re: Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
Not bad!!
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Re: Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
I felt obligated to join the site, just to give you my real world experience.
I first noticed this post a few weeks back, when I was searching for feedback on Berger Varmint bullets.
I too, had learned that my Remington loves the Berger Match Varmint. I, however, was shooting the 35 grain, so not exactly what you are asking about, but again, I felt obligated to report.
My Savage .204's shoot Hornady 32 grain V-max bullets very well, but I couldn't get the Remington to group with the loads I had worked up.
When I tried the Berger, it was like somebody had switched guns on me. It had finally earned a pass to go prairie doggin'!
I'll jump ahead to the trip.
All the way out, I couldn't help but wonder how these Bergers would perform on prairie dogs, as I had never used them on anything but paper on the last trip to the range.
Well, we arrived, got set up, and the very first shot was a direct hit.
That hit, however, simply made a hole through the animal and he managed to crawl off and find a hole to go into, before I could get a follow up shot. Not the way I wanted to start and I even said something about my concerns to my hunting buddy.
I found my next target and basicly had the same type of results. I've maybe been spoiled in the past with the "explosive" results of the V-max bullet, but these Bergers were letting me down. They just didn't seem to expand. Almost passing through like I was shooting FMJ.
I proceeded to try about half a box and gave up on ever using them again for anything but paper.
They just do not provide a humane kill.
I do not know if a 40 grain would be that much of a different result, but my recommendation is to leave the Bergers for paper and maybe larger varmints with more mass.
I hope this helps.
Tim
I first noticed this post a few weeks back, when I was searching for feedback on Berger Varmint bullets.
I too, had learned that my Remington loves the Berger Match Varmint. I, however, was shooting the 35 grain, so not exactly what you are asking about, but again, I felt obligated to report.
My Savage .204's shoot Hornady 32 grain V-max bullets very well, but I couldn't get the Remington to group with the loads I had worked up.
When I tried the Berger, it was like somebody had switched guns on me. It had finally earned a pass to go prairie doggin'!
I'll jump ahead to the trip.
All the way out, I couldn't help but wonder how these Bergers would perform on prairie dogs, as I had never used them on anything but paper on the last trip to the range.
Well, we arrived, got set up, and the very first shot was a direct hit.
That hit, however, simply made a hole through the animal and he managed to crawl off and find a hole to go into, before I could get a follow up shot. Not the way I wanted to start and I even said something about my concerns to my hunting buddy.
I found my next target and basicly had the same type of results. I've maybe been spoiled in the past with the "explosive" results of the V-max bullet, but these Bergers were letting me down. They just didn't seem to expand. Almost passing through like I was shooting FMJ.
I proceeded to try about half a box and gave up on ever using them again for anything but paper.
They just do not provide a humane kill.
I do not know if a 40 grain would be that much of a different result, but my recommendation is to leave the Bergers for paper and maybe larger varmints with more mass.
I hope this helps.
Tim
Re: Berger 40 Grain Match Varmint
Did you see the picture above? That was shot with a 40 grain Berger. I shot a lot of PD's with the 40's. I was using a 9 twist barrel which may make a differance, but they do work pretty good. I would rather use the 39 SBK's but in my 9 twist they come apart before the target. I have also used the 50 gr. Berger and they work pretty good also. I don't know anything about the 35's, because I have never used them. I also posted some more pictures and those pictures were shot of PD's which were shot using the 40's I agree they don't work as well as some, but from what I shot they worked pretty good.
Jimmy
Jimmy
pdsnyper wrote:I felt obligated to join the site, just to give you my real world experience.
I first noticed this post a few weeks back, when I was searching for feedback on Berger Varmint bullets.
I too, had learned that my Remington loves the Berger Match Varmint. I, however, was shooting the 35 grain, so not exactly what you are asking about, but again, I felt obligated to report.
My Savage .204's shoot Hornady 32 grain V-max bullets very well, but I couldn't get the Remington to group with the loads I had worked up.
When I tried the Berger, it was like somebody had switched guns on me. It had finally earned a pass to go prairie doggin'!
I'll jump ahead to the trip.
All the way out, I couldn't help but wonder how these Bergers would perform on prairie dogs, as I had never used them on anything but paper on the last trip to the range.
Well, we arrived, got set up, and the very first shot was a direct hit.
That hit, however, simply made a hole through the animal and he managed to crawl off and find a hole to go into, before I could get a follow up shot. Not the way I wanted to start and I even said something about my concerns to my hunting buddy.
I found my next target and basicly had the same type of results. I've maybe been spoiled in the past with the "explosive" results of the V-max bullet, but these Bergers were letting me down. They just didn't seem to expand. Almost passing through like I was shooting FMJ.
I proceeded to try about half a box and gave up on ever using them again for anything but paper.
They just do not provide a humane kill.
I do not know if a 40 grain would be that much of a different result, but my recommendation is to leave the Bergers for paper and maybe larger varmints with more mass.
I hope this helps.
Tim
.204 Ruger M77 Mark II Weaver 6-24
.222 Rem. BDL Varmint Leupold VX III 6.5-20
.204 Dtech AR 24 in. 1/9 twist SS Fluted Shilen Barrel with Compensator, Leatherwood 8.5-25 uni-dial Also 1/12 twist Shilen. NRA Life Member
6BR Dtech Upper, Shilen 1/8 twist.
.222 Rem. BDL Varmint Leupold VX III 6.5-20
.204 Dtech AR 24 in. 1/9 twist SS Fluted Shilen Barrel with Compensator, Leatherwood 8.5-25 uni-dial Also 1/12 twist Shilen. NRA Life Member
6BR Dtech Upper, Shilen 1/8 twist.