SmallCaliberCentral

Has anyone had any luck with these in their 1:12 twist AR? 41 bucks for 500 is tempting if they shoot at all.

I just literally read somewhere ( I cn't remember where) but a guy said his AR shot them with very good accuracy. I got a slew of them myself as back up, cuz of the price. I have shot them and did very well. I was impressed.

They may not be Nosler's top of the line i.e. BT's, but they shoot very well, for general varmint shooting, plinking and allows you shoot plenty without breaking the bank, when you do not need top line bullets and benchrest accuracy. You will be able to find a load that shoot them around 1 inch at 100 yards, with no problem. Bill K

are they the same bullet as midways dogtown? I do have a box of those to play with before I order 500 of them

yes the midway dogtown and midsouth varmint nightmare's are the same bullets, both built by nosler. As others have posted they offer descent accuracy and are reasonably priced bullets for high volume shooting. I agree with Bill about the accuracy level, they were good for around 1" at 100 yards when I tested them.

cherokee305 wrote:are they the same bullet as midways dogtown? I do have a box of those to play with before I order 500 of them

+1 Bill K

They may not be Nosler's top of the line i.e. BT's, but they shoot very well, for general varmint shooting, plinking and allows you shoot plenty without breaking the bank

I shot this 200 yard group with a 199.00$ DPMS 1-12 .204 Ruger barrel. I LOVE those bullets! 2.255 COL

Nosler makes both the Dogtown and Varmint Nightmare line of bullets. Highly accurate out to 200 yards.


No better bullet for the $ you would be hard pressed to beat these with the 39 Sierra BK at 200 yards if no winds. They have the BC of a 2X4 though.


Just my 2 cents.....

I`ve heard these are the same bullet sold by Nosler as "Shots" in Australia for kangaroo hunting. I don`t know if they are 2nds or 1st run bullets though.

I do not believe they are a second, but just a value priced bullet that Nosler puts out alongwith their other fine bullets. I bet RIO would know for sure. Bill K

Bill K. is spot-on. Both those Nosler bulles are just simple cup & draw HP bullets intended for informal Shooting, Hunting Or Target Shooting, hence the term "SHOTS".

These bullets are less expensive to produce compared to their "botique" bullets such as BT's, Accubond, Partition, etc, and are marketed as bulk bullets for casual shooting. They are not seconds, just regular HP's without any boat tail or poly tip to raise the price.

Rick, not quite correct.

Yes, down here under the world they are sold as Nosler Shots, half the price of anything else. Come in bulk packages and I would believe perhaps they may be production seconds. Would be nice to hear a factory comment not hear say.

In .224 52gr they are Boat Tail HP's, be it a very mild Boat Tail.

The .204 versions as far as I am concerned are rubbish. However, the 52gr .224 Nosler Shots are "Boat Tail Hollow Points" and they are very good.... In fact in my CZ 223 Varmint as accurate if not better than the equivilent Berger 52gr HPBT. That is quite some statement considering the price difference but I can consistantly produce with them 0.5" or less 5 shots groups. These .224's are locally referred to as "Roo Shots" because a huge number of professional shooters buy them..... cheap compared to anything else here and a person (friend) that buys them in 1,000 lots must be onto something.

I also have some 50gr .224 Nosler Shots FB in Soft Point but they are not as accurate.

Maybe it's my Sako or CZ .204 but the "Shots" in .204 just will not group for me and I've tried and tried....at 100yds I'm talking the difference of 0.75" to 0.25" that I can get from the likes of Berger or Sierra. Perhaps it's me or my loads but I have 20-30 .204 Nosler's left and they are designated as "fouling rounds".....sorry.

Lindsay, the only Nosler SHOTS I dink about with are the .17 cal bullets, and they are flat-base. Just goes to show you what happens when you use the "A" word with wanton abandon.

("Assume" is the magic word we're talkin' about here.....)

Ummm

Seeing as theres no top of the line first class Varmint Nightmares or Dogtowns how could one conclude they're seconds.

They are what they are. Low cost production projectiles.

I bought 1000 6mm 55gnSP Kangaroo bullets from Nosler as a production overun. Real cheap.
Dang that was some ugly targets. It is what it is.

I've been able get the dogtowns to shoot ok with 25G of 10X, and also 26.5g of h335. the problem im having is bullet seating. with the absolute flat base they have ive recked 2 pieces of brass. they sure dont push in very nice.

the problem im having is bullet seating.

That can easily be resolved by using an RCBS custom seating die with the "Window". It's the best thing for flat based bullets, place the primed and powdered

case in the shell holder, raise the ram to a certain height (experience), drop the short stubby bullet into the "Window" and it's in perfect alignment. Never ruined a case yet.

Using a standard die and Hornady brass is a futile operation. Hornday brass crushes to easily, (soft).

You can use a VLD case tool to taper/bevel the inside neck but it still sticks some times.

I only use the RCBS dies for short FB Bullets. All others are seated using Forster or Redding.