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Neck turning

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:41 am
by J-Rat
I have a Cooper MTV in .204R. I have Forster Bench Rest Dies, and am using Winchester brass.
All the brass has been sized, trimmed and prepped the same.
Some of the loaded rounds are a tight bolt close and others the bolt is smooth. After firing a tight case, that case now
is a smooth bolt close when the case is empty.
Should I look into neck turning to clean up the brass.?

Thanks.

Re: Neck turning

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:55 am
by futuretrades
If your chamber is cut to SAMMI specks, I don't really think turning the necks will make any difference, or is necessary.

Re: Neck turning

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:38 am
by Rick in Oregon
It sounds like you may need to bump your shoulders to allow that slight bolt closing resistance we're all after. A bump as small as .002 usually does the trick.

Your Cooper MTV was cut like mine with a SAAMI spec reamer, so the neck is most likely .234", so no need to turn necks unless you just want to take off the high spots. I had Cooper send me a chamber cast of my chamber, and it is spot-on at .234". Mic a loaded case and you'll most likely see there's plenty of clearance in the neck; the culprit is the shoulder.

Re: Neck turning

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:45 pm
by J-Rat
So a Bushing bump neck die is what I need ? I'm using a FL sizer die adjusted to cam over on the shell holder.

Re: Neck turning

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:18 pm
by Rick in Oregon
That F/L die will work your brass too much IMO. You can use a Body Die which won't work your necks, and if you need more shoulder bump, the Redding Competition Shell Holder Kit will give you six shellholders in .002" thickness increments to properly set your case headspace for every rifle you own with that case head size (223/204 etc.).

Re: Neck turning

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:54 pm
by J-Rat
Thank You for your help.

Re: Neck turning

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:41 pm
by TEXAS222
Rick in Oregon wrote:That F/L die will work your brass too much IMO. You can use a Body Die which won't work your necks, and if you need more shoulder bump, the Redding Competition Shell Holder Kit will give you six shellholders in .002" thickness increments to properly set your case headspace for every rifle you own with that case head size (223/204 etc.).
Rick, what gauge do you use to measure headspace? I have Redding Shell Holder Kit & ordered a Innovative Technology Head Space gauge set to help me set my dies properly. At the shoulder I usually like .002-.003. Is that about right? JD Texas

Re: Neck turning

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:45 am
by Rick in Oregon
JD: Yep, that sounds about right. I shoot for .002" myself and use the old Stoney Point set of headspace gauges, now Hornaday that fits onto a dial or digital caliper. It's very similar to their bullet-to-lands measuring tool and works very well indeed.