Crimping Imput

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The Reloader
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Crimping Imput

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What Crimping methods do you guys use? How Necessary is it in the field for the 204 is the neck tension good enough? And do you know is Lee Makes a Factory Crimp Die for the 204? How many of you use a roll crimp with the bullet seater?
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DoubleUp
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Personally I don't crimp 204, but I'm shooting a boltgun. I don't crimp for my AR in 223 either, but some people feel more secure doing so. I don't believe Lee makes an FCD for 204.
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Re: Crimping Imput

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Never heard of any one crimping for 204 in a bolt. Doubt that it is needed in an AR but, I don't own one so really could not say.
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I rely on Wilson neck sizing bushings for consistent neck tension.....
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Like the rest, I do not crimp.. Might if I shot a HDR, but as of now I do not. Bill K
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Re: Crimping Imput

Post by sharptailhunter »

There is some debate in reloading circles as to whether crimping really improves accuracy. Some swear by it, others say they have tried it and found no difference. It does not appear that Lee is making a factory crimo for the .204 yet. Roll crimping is a different beast than the kind of crimp you show in your video. A roll crimp requires the bullet to have a cannelure, like the bullets that you show in your video. If you do a roll crimp on a bullet without a cannelure, you will destort the dimensions of the bullet, especially a little guy like the 20 caliber.
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Re: Crimping Imput

Post by ryutzy »

I do not crimp my 204 and I am shooting an AR. I've never had any issues with enough neck tension either. I use Reddings neck bushing die and I use a bushing that gives me about 2.5 thousanth of neck tension.
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The Reloader
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Re: Crimping Imput

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Great Input guys thanx! Im glad i don't have to crimp since i think the majority say it hurts the accuracy.
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Re: Crimping Imput

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Just so you know, Lee does not sell a crimp die, but they will make a custom one on request. You just have to send them two inert cartridges and I belive the cost was $30. I've had decent groups without crimping, but I crimp all my other calibers and get very good results with them. I'm pretty confident the .204 doesnt need a crimp to keep the bullet in place, but I think Lee's die may help give more consistent neck tension, which could tighten your groups. I've also noticed that Federal's 32gr Nosler load has a cannelure and is crimped, but my 32gr Noslers have no groove.
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Re: Crimping Imput

Post by NESHOOTER »

I find as well that crimp in my world don't exist, I do without doing it and on the times of performing it didn't do a thing for me so I do without it....
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