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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:06 pm
by 204Shooter
WrzWaldo wrote:Best I can do is the honor system. Cheaters will only be cheating themselves. I'm hoping the lack of prize money will keep everyone honest.
So if there are powder burns on my target, does that disqualify me? :shhh: :wink:

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:11 pm
by BunGhoLeo
RICK HAHA, that is a good one!

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:14 pm
by WrzWaldo
204Shooter wrote:
WrzWaldo wrote:Best I can do is the honor system. Cheaters will only be cheating themselves. I'm hoping the lack of prize money will keep everyone honest.
So if there are powder burns on my target, does that disqualify me? :shhh: :wink:
Depends on how long the barrel on your shooter is. :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:39 pm
by Hawkeye Joe
skipper wrote:
How do we keep everyone honest.
Hopefully we'll all have the INTEGRITY needed for this type of event :!: I also agree on leaving bullet type/weight out.

Re: Classes

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:44 pm
by Mike
BunGhoLeo wrote:BUT, in reality i think the odds of someone on here having a custom rifle and NOT reloading is perty slim, so we could do away with that class and just have three class's, would have to wait and see the entry's.
I'm sure that I'm in the minority, but I would fall into the Modified Rifle/Factory Ammo group.

I agree with others who say that we should depend on the integrity of our forum members. We complain about overwhelming legislation and frivolous laws every day in our government. Why in the world would we want to create such an environment here? This is supposed to be a fun event. I'd sure hate to see the fun get legislated right out of it!

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:50 pm
by WrzWaldo
Honor system it is.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:52 pm
by Robert harrel
wrzwaldo i looked @ the targets and if i took a sharpie and put a smaller dot inside the aiming square would that be okay or foul. never done any thing like this before and was curious.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:57 pm
by skipper
O.K. so when do we begin??? I'm ready for some fun and this sounds like a hoot. :w00t:

Sing me up for a custom rifle and custom ammo. I'll be out at the bench tonight loading up some match grade pills courtesy of Mr. Walt Berger.

I also want to shoot my XR-100. It is box stock and I'll be shooting hand loads.

You do understand that using .204" to determine group size is going to skew the groups sizes smaller? A .204 doesn't make a .204" hole in paper. It's more like .194-.196. I'm not complaining, mind you. If everyone agrees on using .204" that's fine with me. We had this discussion about a year ago on this forum. Before that discussion everyone used .204" but after it was brought to our attention that this was an improper way to measure group size I started shooting a single hole on the side of the target to use as the subtractor. Like I said, I'll be very happy to go along with the group's decision. As long as everyone agrees, it shouldn't matter.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:02 pm
by WrzWaldo
Robert harrel wrote:wrzwaldo i looked @ the targets and if i took a sharpie and put a smaller dot inside the aiming square would that be okay or foul. never done any thing like this before and was curious.
I have no problem with that.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:09 pm
by WrzWaldo
skipper wrote:O.K. so when do we begin??? I'm ready for some fun and this sounds like a hoot. :w00t:
I'll have the targets in the mail by months end. All returned targets must be postmarked by 01 Octoberber 2007. I know some of you will get your targets before the others, sorry nothing I can do about that.

Sing me up for a custom rifle and custom ammo. I'll be out at the bench tonight loading up some match grade pills courtesy of Mr. Walt Berger.

I also want to shoot my XR-100. It is box stock and I'll be shooting hand loads.
Pssst... What ya shooting in your XR? :eek:

You do understand that using .204" to determine group size is going to skew the groups sizes smaller? A .204 doesn't make a .204" hole in paper. It's more like .194-.196. I'm not complaining, mind you. If everyone agrees on using .204" that's fine with me. We had this discussion about a year ago on this forum. Before that discussion everyone used .204" but after it was brought to our attention that this was an improper way to measure group size I started shooting a single hole on the side of the target to use as the subtractor. Like I said, I'll be very happy to go along with the group's decision. As long as everyone agrees, it shouldn't matter.
So let's call it .195! Done deal.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:26 pm
by skipper
WrzWaldo

XR-100 load.

30.0 gr. Retumbo (compressed load of course), Blazer aluminum cases, 50 gr. Berger VLD's and Federal 200 primers. :bs:

What are you gonna shoot?

No seriously, I think everyone can gleen over my posts and see that MY XR-100 likes 25.1 gr. RE-10X, Norma brass, CCI BR-4 primers and the 40 gr. Bergers. This is my XR-100's favorite food. Try it, you'll like it. Oh, I forgot, OAL is 2.255".

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:11 pm
by Hawkeye Joe
It would be nice if we all put a crispy $buck$ or two in with the returned targets to cover costs.... What class is my LRPV in?
I FOUND A MISSING LINK. I'm still using my press to prime cases :oops: Not any more :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:30 pm
by skipper
$$$ Sounds like a fair deal. I'm glad I'm not the event host.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:23 pm
by WrzWaldo
skipper wrote:WrzWaldo

XR-100 load.

30.0 gr. Retumbo (compressed load of course), Blazer aluminum cases, 50 gr. Berger VLD's and Federal 200 primers. :bs:

What are you gonna shoot?

No seriously, I think everyone can gleen over my posts and see that MY XR-100 likes 25.1 gr. RE-10X, Norma brass, CCI BR-4 primers and the 40 gr. Bergers. This is my XR-100's favorite food. Try it, you'll like it. Oh, I forgot, OAL is 2.255".
For the Saubier shoot I ran with 27.7 RE-15, CCI BR4, Hornady Brass, 39BK, and OAL of 2.32. I recon I'll shoot that one more time then see if I can dial in the RE-10x.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:26 pm
by WrzWaldo
Hawkeye Joe wrote:It would be nice if we all put a crispy $buck$ or two in with the returned targets to cover costs.... What class is my LRPV in?
I FOUND A MISSING LINK. I'm still using my press to prime cases :oops: Not any more :lol: :lol:
I do believe the LRPV is a Savage production rifle.

$$ not necessary but thanks for the thought!