Washing-ton-O laws
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:46 am
Since the recent passage of several vile WA. laws there are many unknowns.
Thought this would help inform any or all if the powers-at-be in other areas decide to push this in your neck of the woods.
No-one is immune.
Here is a snippet of what is to come as of July 1 in Washington State.
The jest of it so far- keep in mind there is a fluid learning curve for everyone.
1) CCP will no longer qualify for an instant check after July 1 no matter when it's issued. 10 business day wait when buying a "semiautomatic assault rifle". Which includes ALL semi-autos, 10/22 Rugers etc. Have to be 21yrs and older. It has crippled the process to include a 10 day wait for handguns regardless of having a CCP.
2) Purchasers waive their HIPPA rights (Semi-autos/handguns) and at anytime, they can review your medical background to see if you're fit to own a gun. The state mental health authority will apparently be keeping records of who has “applied” to purchase a pistol or rifle. As per RCW 9.41.094, effective July 1st, 2019, “A signed application to purchase a pistol or semiautomatic assault rifle shall constitute a waiver of confidentiality and written request that the health care authority, mental health institutions, and other health care facilities release, to an inquiring court or law enforcement agency, information relevant to the applicant’s eligibility to purchase a pistol or semiautomatic assault rifle to an inquiring court or law enforcement agency.”
3) The NRA/SAF are all over this- the lawsuit has survived the motion to dismiss. Now it's being scheduled for hearings. There are 2 injunction requests within the existing lawsuit and another emergency relief order. Keep in mind It's taken six months just to get to this point so whatever happens it will not be soon.
4) Sporting Systems Youtube and Facebook page posts weekly updates. They are the lead plaintiff suing the state.
5) A different law that affects 80% lowers. It will outlaw some polymer ones, but aluminum 80% lowers will still be legal. It's a prime example of a terribly written law. It says that dealers must do a background check on the purchaser, which is impossible because the FBI won't run a background check on a person unless they're buying a firearm. However, business owners who aren't dealers can sell them without that requirement. So you can't buy them from a gun dealer, but you can buy them from a laundromat.
6) ANY semi-automatic rifle requires proof of training for i-1639 compliance. There are no exemptions for military, law enforcement or instructors.
From Talos Tactical LLC:
I-1639 is just a few weeks away, and the state finally released their new Firearm Transfer Application. To say we're frustrated is an understatement.
It demonstrates a clear lack of leadership from the FBI, WA AG's office, and/or the WA DOL. They are clearly not communicating. The form from the DOL doesn't allow us to do the things the AG and FBI say we need to do. Further, we have been supplying local law enforcement with what little info we're getting because the state hasn't deemed it necessary to keep them updated as to their role in this mess.
What do we have for info? The FBI says we can no longer do instant checks on semi-automatic rifles, handguns, and frames/receivers. They need to be submitted to local law enforcement. The state says we need to fill out their transfer form and physically mail it to the law enforcement agency. The agency is supposed to do the background check, and then physically mail it back. It cannot be done in less than 30 days (per an official release by King County). At 30 days, the paperwork expires. So either nobody will get their guns, or everybody will and we won't find out until later whether they legally should have. Again, there's no guidance from the state on this.
This all assumes that we could properly submit the form for a background check in the first place. We can't. The FBI says we can't use their system for a check on a receiver. The state form doesn't have a section for a receiver. We are three weeks out, and nobody has a mechanism in place for us to run a background check on a receiver. Do we not sell them? Are they no longer subject to a background check? Somebody needs to own this, but nobody currently is.
While I'm griping about the forms, let's dig into that a bit deeper. There's a box the purchaser must check on the state form, acknowledging that it's a forfeiture of HIPPA privacy. Handguns are just supposed to be for that instant. Semi-automatic rifles would be permanent. But there's only one box to check. So is it one, the other, both, or neither? Nobody knows. The form to request information is even more odd. The DOL says their website and database won't be ready for a year, and there's no funding or labor at all for it right now. Yet, this form is supposed to be processed by these imaginary employees using a website that doesn't exist, so you can see what guns the state thinks you own. Right.
Oh, and don't forget these classes you're supposed to take before buying a semi-automatic rifle. What classes count? No idea. Who can teach them? No idea. What test do you take and what forms do you fill out? No idea. What website do we check to make sure you did what you're supposed to do? It's the one the DOL says won't be done for a year.
The most frustrating part is that this is not even an attempt at curbing crime. Not one dollar or one minute of time is directed towards crime or criminals. This will destroy a background check system that works pretty darn well. The voters who pushed this through have wrecked a functional background check system, and virtually guaranteed that more bad guys will get guns. July 1 is going to be an ugly day in Washington.
The new Firearm Transfer Application
https://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652001a.pdf
Thought this would help inform any or all if the powers-at-be in other areas decide to push this in your neck of the woods.
No-one is immune.
Here is a snippet of what is to come as of July 1 in Washington State.
The jest of it so far- keep in mind there is a fluid learning curve for everyone.
1) CCP will no longer qualify for an instant check after July 1 no matter when it's issued. 10 business day wait when buying a "semiautomatic assault rifle". Which includes ALL semi-autos, 10/22 Rugers etc. Have to be 21yrs and older. It has crippled the process to include a 10 day wait for handguns regardless of having a CCP.
2) Purchasers waive their HIPPA rights (Semi-autos/handguns) and at anytime, they can review your medical background to see if you're fit to own a gun. The state mental health authority will apparently be keeping records of who has “applied” to purchase a pistol or rifle. As per RCW 9.41.094, effective July 1st, 2019, “A signed application to purchase a pistol or semiautomatic assault rifle shall constitute a waiver of confidentiality and written request that the health care authority, mental health institutions, and other health care facilities release, to an inquiring court or law enforcement agency, information relevant to the applicant’s eligibility to purchase a pistol or semiautomatic assault rifle to an inquiring court or law enforcement agency.”
3) The NRA/SAF are all over this- the lawsuit has survived the motion to dismiss. Now it's being scheduled for hearings. There are 2 injunction requests within the existing lawsuit and another emergency relief order. Keep in mind It's taken six months just to get to this point so whatever happens it will not be soon.
4) Sporting Systems Youtube and Facebook page posts weekly updates. They are the lead plaintiff suing the state.
5) A different law that affects 80% lowers. It will outlaw some polymer ones, but aluminum 80% lowers will still be legal. It's a prime example of a terribly written law. It says that dealers must do a background check on the purchaser, which is impossible because the FBI won't run a background check on a person unless they're buying a firearm. However, business owners who aren't dealers can sell them without that requirement. So you can't buy them from a gun dealer, but you can buy them from a laundromat.
6) ANY semi-automatic rifle requires proof of training for i-1639 compliance. There are no exemptions for military, law enforcement or instructors.
From Talos Tactical LLC:
I-1639 is just a few weeks away, and the state finally released their new Firearm Transfer Application. To say we're frustrated is an understatement.
It demonstrates a clear lack of leadership from the FBI, WA AG's office, and/or the WA DOL. They are clearly not communicating. The form from the DOL doesn't allow us to do the things the AG and FBI say we need to do. Further, we have been supplying local law enforcement with what little info we're getting because the state hasn't deemed it necessary to keep them updated as to their role in this mess.
What do we have for info? The FBI says we can no longer do instant checks on semi-automatic rifles, handguns, and frames/receivers. They need to be submitted to local law enforcement. The state says we need to fill out their transfer form and physically mail it to the law enforcement agency. The agency is supposed to do the background check, and then physically mail it back. It cannot be done in less than 30 days (per an official release by King County). At 30 days, the paperwork expires. So either nobody will get their guns, or everybody will and we won't find out until later whether they legally should have. Again, there's no guidance from the state on this.
This all assumes that we could properly submit the form for a background check in the first place. We can't. The FBI says we can't use their system for a check on a receiver. The state form doesn't have a section for a receiver. We are three weeks out, and nobody has a mechanism in place for us to run a background check on a receiver. Do we not sell them? Are they no longer subject to a background check? Somebody needs to own this, but nobody currently is.
While I'm griping about the forms, let's dig into that a bit deeper. There's a box the purchaser must check on the state form, acknowledging that it's a forfeiture of HIPPA privacy. Handguns are just supposed to be for that instant. Semi-automatic rifles would be permanent. But there's only one box to check. So is it one, the other, both, or neither? Nobody knows. The form to request information is even more odd. The DOL says their website and database won't be ready for a year, and there's no funding or labor at all for it right now. Yet, this form is supposed to be processed by these imaginary employees using a website that doesn't exist, so you can see what guns the state thinks you own. Right.
Oh, and don't forget these classes you're supposed to take before buying a semi-automatic rifle. What classes count? No idea. Who can teach them? No idea. What test do you take and what forms do you fill out? No idea. What website do we check to make sure you did what you're supposed to do? It's the one the DOL says won't be done for a year.
The most frustrating part is that this is not even an attempt at curbing crime. Not one dollar or one minute of time is directed towards crime or criminals. This will destroy a background check system that works pretty darn well. The voters who pushed this through have wrecked a functional background check system, and virtually guaranteed that more bad guys will get guns. July 1 is going to be an ugly day in Washington.
The new Firearm Transfer Application
https://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652001a.pdf
