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Hi, sorry, i'm alot late with this, but a few weeks ago people were asking about range finders and iwondered why nobody mentioned binos with built in range finders. Is that because they are no good? Also,does anyone know if remington market a model 7 in 204R. Thanks Kenbro.

Ken, the only bino with built-in rangefinder worth a hoot is the Leica BRF, and it's quite expensive. The Leica Geovid is nice, but bulky and heavy. The others (all imports) I've looked at are not worth the bulk, and the optics and laser characteristics just don't cut it.

The only Model Seven in 204R offered this year (that I'm aware of) is the Predator, the camo job rifle w/22" barrel.

My brother in laws Leica Geovids are more than good. They are big and they are heavy but they are far and away the best laser range finders I have ever used.
The cheapy ones are good at ranging distance depending on target size but they suck as binos.

Here's a review of Zeiss's 10 x 45 range finder binocular which compares it to the Geovid. It also comes in 8 power.

Here's a quote:
With rangefinders of otherwise similar quality, the unit with the tightest beam divergence will deal best with ground scatter. In the Zeiss Victory RF 10x45 Rangefinder Binocular this number measures 1.6 x 0.5 millirads, with the second number being the vertical component. The vertical component, in my own experience, will most often be the limiting factor in filtering our ground scatter problems in the field.

The beam divergence numbers on the Swarovski rangefinder are 2.5 x 2.5 and on the Leica Geovid they are 2.5 x 0.5. At 1.6 x 0.5, the Zeiss Victory RF 10x45 Rangefinder Binocular beam divergence numbers are the lowest I know of for a consumer level rangefinder.



http://longrangehunting.com/articles/Ze ... view-1.php

Hi, thanks to all for the information on range finding bins, with a exellent link in there as well. Rick, i didn't phrase the question about the M7 very well. We can get the predator over here, but the barrel profile is different to the 20" BDL, and as i have 2 M7 BDLs already, a third one in 204R would let me use my moderator on all three. thanks, Ken.