There she blows

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There she blows

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Check the short video clips on this page (from Sweden) to see some tests on different rifles being fired with a full charge and a bullet stuck in the barrel.

http://www.testfakta.se/Article.aspx?a=16350
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Can you imagine what your hand would look like after shooting the Remington and Browning?
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It is interesting how the two American rifles blew the barrels while the others did not. I would be curious to know if the test was biased in any way or if in fact, the Remington and Browning would be more dangerous in this situation. :shrug:
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It would also be interesting to know if all rifles were the same chambering and if they were all shooting the same loads.

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Anyone here read Swedish?

http://www.testfakta.se/Article.aspx?a=16439
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It appears that all the rifles had some sort of failure. The Tikka and the Sako have small smoke columns about 4 inches in front of the chamber. I can’t read Swedish nor do I know if it was an anti American plot. Just thought it was an interesting set of films. I guess I felt good that the Sako did not grenade like the Remington, but I also own a very nice .270 custom on a Remington action. It just lives in my safe. I like my Winchester featherweight much more.
The value of the films is that they show we are playing a very serious game here. I do not want anyone’s rifle to blow no matter what brand it is. Please be careful and look for the powder before you seat a bullet.
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WHISTLEPIG wrote:It appears that all the rifles had some sort of failure. The Tikka and the Sako have small smoke columns about 4 inches in front of the chamber. I can’t read Swedish nor do I know if it was an anti American plot. Just thought it was an interesting set of films. I guess I felt good that the Sako did not grenade like the Remington, but I also own a very nice .270 custom on a Remington action. It just lives in my safe. I like my Winchester featherweight much more.
The value of the films is that they show we are playing a very serious game here. I do not want anyone’s rifle to blow no matter what brand it is. Please be careful and look for the powder before you seat a bullet.

Well said! I sincerely doubt ANY rifle could withstand a follow-on bullet to bullet confrontation, Sako, Remington, Winchester, or Panda, for that matter. Let's just all be careful, and leave that stuff for the companies doing the testing :!: :!:
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at my hunter safety course, the instructors brought in a cz chambered in .22 hornet (i think) that was cut in half to sho 7 bullets in the barrel. :eek:
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It is hard for me to believe that any of them would sustain a double-stuff much less with no apparent damage?????
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My guess is the foriegn rifles have weaker steel in thier barrels, allowing for a fracture to occur where the bullet on bullet collision occurred.

The American Steel (being superior in strength - like our Armed Forces) allowed MUCH higher pressure to build, resulting in a catastrophic failure - kinda like a pipe bomb!

:doh:

I would also like to add it appeared the foriegn rifles had the 'squib' much closer to the chamber........about 4" - with the barrel fracturing prematurely this would be a controlled 'eruption' similiar to a volcanic fissure.
The American rifles (judging by location of failure and barrel ballooning) appeared to have the squib located much farther down the barrel - allowing for more gas volume = a larger and more catastrophic failure (explosion).

Just my observation. :hic:
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Uuuummmmm............. what's a squib???
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For example, a primer-only load is a good example of a squib, or any undercharged load.
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Thank you, Glenn!

I would say the foreigners got just a primer and the Americans had about 2 grains in them! :?

It's REALLY obvious if you slow-mo the video frame by frame.
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Re: There she blows

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I know this is ot but every time i see this topic i remember this one
http://www.eyecatcher.net/cartoons/cartoon.html
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