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Has anyone heard of this cartridge? I'm curious.
http://www.reloadersnest.com/frontpage. ... iberID=521

This text is based on information from “Cartridges of the World”, Hodgdon reloading manual, the cartridge designer and/or own resources.

I don't recall seeing it in my version of “Cartridges of the World”! But I will have another look see when I get home this evening.

This is the first I've ever heard of it. Sounds like a new wildcat.

sounds like a joke.....

Here's the .204 Apache.
http://www.savageshooters.com/index.php ... 20Part%201

My biggest disappointment with the .204 Ruger was that it was not very accurate past 300yds. Any Prairie dogs that were 350yds away were actually fairly safe when I was shooting that rifle.

Must of had a bent rifle...

WrzWaldo wrote:

My biggest disappointment with the .204 Ruger was that it was not very accurate past 300yds. Any Prairie dogs that were 350yds away were actually fairly safe when I was shooting that rifle.

Must of had a bent rifle...

Kinda what I thought. Then he tried 50 gr bullets.

It all seems confusing to me. I've had spectacular kills on large ground squirrels in excess of 465 yards with Sierra 32gr Blitz Kings. From the reaction of the squirrel (can you say "launch"?), I'd say there was plenty of 'steam' left, even past this mythical 300 yard marker.......

Ask anyone with at least one full season behind a 204 Ruger, and their enthusiam usually speaks for itself.

Rick in Oregon wrote:It all seems confusing to me. I've had spectacular kills on large ground squirrels in excess of 465 yards with Sierra 32gr Blitz Kings. From the reaction of the squirrel (can you say "launch"?), I'd say there was plenty of 'steam' left, even past this mythical 300 yard marker.......

Ask anyone with at least one full season behind a 204 Ruger, and their enthusiam usually speaks for itself.

I think it goes back to the 204 prejustice. http://rugerhunting.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3730

Bergcrane2 wrote:

WrzWaldo wrote:

My biggest disappointment with the .204 Ruger was that it was not very accurate past 300yds. Any Prairie dogs that were 350yds away were actually fairly safe when I was shooting that rifle.

Must of had a bent rifle...

Kinda what I thought. Then he tried 50 gr bullets.

I discussed this stuff with Thad Becker back when he was shooting the 204. I do not remember any posts about a Savage 204. He was shooting a Cooper 204 with the 50 Bergs. As I rember it the Cooper was giving .25moa at 200yds and .5 moa out to 500yds with the 50's. At 600yds they suddenly dropped an extra 6'' over the ballistic program table and 6'' to the left (or right). This was his major upset with the 204 and the data he was looking for to condemn it.

I told him this was actually great performance considering a 12 twist should'nt shoot those pills at all.
Judging from his previous posts before he ever shot a 204 I knew he would never accept the 204 even if it set a 1000yd record for him. So be it.
It must have impressed him enough to try a wildcat of his own.

My next Wildcat I'm going to have built is a .20 BR with a .228" neck and a 1/10" twist for shooting 50 grain Bergers. I'll load a dummy round to my specs and have the chamber cut accordingly.

I think that is already serious overbore (case diameter vs. bullet diameter) BUT a friend of mine has one and it is a PD slaying machine!

He was getting 4660 fps with the 35 grainers........................

I have an XP-100 in 7mm BR that could use a going over...................

As far as the '.204 Dead Dog'.....................I have NO idea what it is. A .204 in a 243 case??? Who knows...............................

Bergcrane2 wrote:

WrzWaldo wrote:

My biggest disappointment with the .204 Ruger was that it was not very accurate past 300yds. Any Prairie dogs that were 350yds away were actually fairly safe when I was shooting that rifle.

Must of had a bent rifle...

Kinda what I thought. Then he tried 50 gr bullets.

well not sure how i'm going to explain to my 16yo son that his .204 wasn't capable of killin praire dogs out to 400yds, not sure why those pds exploded when he squeezed off a round, but it couldn't have been the 32gr v-maxs he was sending down range! after all some self proclaimed expert says a .204 ain't good past 300yds, well I'll just break it to him gentle like, that what he was doin was impossible!