WELL i think i got both rifles dialed in first pix is a 5 shot group with 40 grain vamageddons in 222 rem the second is a three shot group with 39 geain sierra blitz kings in 204. all with the same powder bench mark 8208 it meters very well and is very easy to work with no spikes in pressure when getting to maximum charges in all a good powder with the bonus its available cheers bazz