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Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:37 am
by Bitman
Bear with me, if I don't use the proper terminology.
I have a FX-lll, 12X40, 1" tube, long range duplex reticle, with the tall target type turrets.
I don't use the turrets to adjust for height,while shooting, as I have the dots on the bottom crosshair.
I've also got a VX-ll, 6-18X40, 1" tube, with fine duplex, and your standard short adjusters.
My question is this:
Can I take the tall target turrets and put them on the VX-ll to give me some elevation adjustment when shooting?
If so, can someone tell me how to switch them?
Or is this something that must be done by Leupold?
Thanks, Dave

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:02 am
by Rick in Oregon
Bitman: The factory must perform these modifications. Cost runs about $75 to have a different turret (M1, M3, Target, Custom) installed.

On most of my varmint scopes, I only have a calibrated, finger adjustable turret installed for elevation only, as once you start twiddling knobs in the wind, you'll get into trouble. I'm fond of the Leupold M1 turret, as it's marked in .25 MOA increments, and as such, is easy to make very accurate long range elevation corrections for first shot hit probability. Using the correct turret for elevation, and the hash marks or wind "ticks" in the Varmint Hunter Reticle to hold off for wind, first shot hits at extended range are the norm.

This is a Leupold M1 elevation adjustment compared to one of the target turrets you have now:

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This is an extremely robust adjustment, the same unit used on Leupold's miltary/tactical M4 scopes. No caps to lose, easily adjusted from the shooting position. You can see the different turret options on their website.

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:40 am
by Bitman
Thanks Rick

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:17 pm
by Hotshot
Bitman,

That is a sweet setup that RIO has. I use similar except rifle upgrade to a Savage.(INCOMING)

I just wanted to mention that a company named Stoney Point makes a target turret for some Leupold scopes that screws on in place of the cap and fits the coin slot of the adjustment. Price is about $25-30 and you put on or off in a few seconds.

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:03 pm
by Rick in Oregon
Hotshot: Good point.....I'd forgotten about those neat little 'converta-knobs' that work very well. Really worth checking out.

Incoming: Not at all......I'm still chuckling as I write this. Seems my transparancy is showing again though. Hey, at least here we can be ourselves without 'flame fear', volitile retribution and nastyness via the keyboard. See, it took a Savage shooter to point out the Stony Point knobs. ;)

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:46 am
by Critter
Rick:

When you said you shouldn't fiddle with the knobs because "once you start twiddling knobs in the wind, you'll get into trouble."

Ok, now if you'l bear with me on this, give this simulator a shot:

http://www.horusvision.com/img/hrsgame.swf

You can move the sight picture around to measure stuff. Left scale is in MOA, Reticle is in mils. Come up chart is in mils also.

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:10 pm
by Captqc
:offtopic: OH MY GOSH! :eek: Hotshot shoots a Savage!!!! :lala: He must be assimilated at once! :morons: Repeat after me: Cooper, Cooper, Cooper! :lol: Sorry for the drift, back to the topic at hand. I think what Rick is refering too is the more you crank away the more likely you are to get all out of wack and then have to re-zero (not that I've done anything like that :wink: ). That takes away from range time and the rats are likely to chew on your ankles while you are trying to get back in the game. :lol:

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:08 pm
by Rick in Oregon
Well Captain, that's about it alright. Also, dialing the elevation is fine, as it remains constant, but wind is always changing, and trying to dial for wind when shooting rodents is like a dog chasing it's tail. By the time you figure it out, it's changed direction or velocity.

I dial for wind when shooting past 500 yards using my .308Win (and CF calibers) and a tactical scope, but for rats?........no way, as like you said, by the time you're done dialing, the rat is done hanging around waiting for you to shoot, and has long since dove down his burrow or is off chasing Cindi-Lou next door......

Re: Leupold Scope Question

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:54 am
by Critter
Rick in Oregon wrote:Well Captain, that's about it alright. Also, dialing the elevation is fine, as it remains constant, but wind is always changing, and trying to dial for wind when shooting rodents is like a dog chasing it's tail. By the time you figure it out, it's changed direction or velocity.

I dial for wind when shooting past 500 yards using my .308Win (and CF calibers) and a tactical scope, but for rats?........no way, as like you said, by the time you're done dialing, the rat is done hanging around waiting for you to shoot, and has long since dove down his burrow or is off chasing Cindi-Lou next door......
Squirrels seem a little more relaxed than PDs in hunted areas. I think you can see in this picture the white strip around the elevation knob. This is a piece of masking tape cut and wrapped around the knob. I put geographic data for that position so that when the prairie dog was near a known local reference I could just dial up or down a little from that location. With wide travel knob on my modern scopes, this works even better.

Best however is the above referenced H-25 reticle. I understand this is now availabe on certain Nightforce scopes as well.

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