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Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:22 pm
by majcl5
When you are reloading fired brass do you clean your primer pocket with the pocket primer uniform bit or wire brush ?

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:54 pm
by Rick in Oregon
Re-uniform....you'll clean out the pocket, and remove any minute amount of brass that may have flowed during firing. I do it every time I reload the case. If you don't all your primers will be seated at slightly varying depths over time due to different pocket depths, and this will affect consistency; not alot mind you, but some, and I need all the help I can muster.

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:17 pm
by majcl5
I have always used the pocket primer tool but I was doing it today and was pondering the thought of if you could take to much out and shorten the life of the brass . I have some brass that I have reloaded 5-6 times and was shooting last year and I had some random very suspect accuracy and I was wondering if some of the brass was just to old and causing the poor accuracy ?

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:50 am
by Rick in Oregon
Mark, don't fret about taking too much brass out of the pocket when uniforming. I've got brass uniformed that way that has been reloaded since 1976, and it's still going strong as long as I keep it annealed. (It's old R-P 222 Rem Mag brass formed to 223 years ago.)

If accuracy is a concern, it may be because of varying neck tension. Anneal it, and it will come back to life with proper neck tension.

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:53 pm
by 204foxguy
Rick in Oregon wrote:Mark, don't fret about taking too much brass out of the pocket when uniforming. I've got brass uniformed that way that has been reloaded since 1976, and it's still going strong as long as I keep it annealed. (It's old R-P 222 Rem Mag brass formed to 223 years ago.)

If accuracy is a concern, it may be because of varying neck tension. Anneal it, and it will come back to life with proper neck tension.
Rick,

How many times do you typically reload / shoot your brass before Annealing it to bring it back?
(I'm loading 204 Ruger)

thanks

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:49 pm
by majcl5
Do you anneal your brass after or before resizing them ?

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:02 am
by Rick in Oregon
Annealing: You'll know when it's time to anneal. It's when your expander ball feels little or no resistence as it's drawn back out of the case when resizing, eithr F/L or neck sizing. If I feel even one case in my lot of 100 starting to give that 'feeling', it's time to anneal the lot. That characteristic is felt when there's no "springback" of the case neck due to working the brass. It can also split at this stage from hardening if not attended to.

I usually anneal either when I get the above going on, or after about six firings, as after that much use, it's pretty much time to get it done. HTH

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:36 am
by majcl5
Thanks Rick I knew you would answer my ? :D

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:06 am
by futuretrades
One suggestion for when you start to anneal your brass, would be to buy an annealing tip for your propane torch. When I first started, I didn't have said tip, and I screwed up some brass. Not a big deal for me, as I had more 223 brass than I knew what to do with, so I practiced on this brass.
RIO turned me on to The Woodchuck Den, Tod Kindler, as a source for availability of the annealing tip. That is where I bought mine from. HTH

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:21 am
by Jim White
I'll add too that the tip Todd K sells works very well. I've used it on all of my 6mm brass, next up is the 204 cases followed by the 20 vt cases after that. To practice, grab some old brass off the range before starting on the good stuff.

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:34 pm
by majcl5
One more question after you anneal your brass how often does it need annealed again after your first time ?

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:19 pm
by Rick in Oregon
majcl5 wrote:One more question after you anneal your brass how often does it need annealed again after your first time ?
The same drill applies.....when you either get no 'spring-back' when neck sizing (lack of bullet neck tension), or if you encounter a split neck. All this depends on how the brass has been work hardened; there's no hard-set rule, but figure you probably need to anneal after about 6-8 reloading cycles in most cases. HTH

Re: Primer pocket uniformer ?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:37 pm
by majcl5
You can always get a answer here I had never even heard of annealing before this thanks for all the help guys , Time for all our reloading to start to get ready for rat shooting time :D