SmallCaliberCentral

Phew, didn't know it would get this technical. It's all very interesting and enlightening, but i personally will start with 3 shot groups and take it from there. I'm a real novice reloader and i hope to work up to better things. Thanks again to all, for making this an interesting topic. There's nothing to beat this forum for the knowledge and goodwill. Regards, Ken. Ps. Saubier is brill. also.

jo191145,

Interesting phenomon regarding the barrel being "too" clean.

Regarding the orange streaks in the muzzle I do keep tabs on that (especially with the 6mm) because if its visible at the muzzle it has to look like a copper mine in the throat. I have quite a bit of moly around here and I have though long and hard about moly coating these bullets. For my service rifle AR's all I had to do was a through scrub and recoat every 500 rounds or so and the reason I chose 500 was to ensure the moly would not build up in the throat and cause problems later.

I use a mix of Shooter's Choice and Kroil to clean with. I use Sweets 7.62 to remove Copper after it has built up and it works reasonably well. I'm toying with the idea of trying out some others. I've heard of;

- Montana Extreme
- Barns CR-10
- Bore Tech CU+ and Carbon Remover
- Butch's Bore Shine
- KG-2 and KG-12
- Gunslik

and a host of others.

My concerns with moly is leaving it in the barrel. While I've never had a problem with the AR-15 moly barrel the weather around here is damp and I don't want any issues and recoating the barrel can be a inconvience.

Jim

Kenbrofox

I use the same method as OldTurtle, it seems to work the best for my needs.

I had tried Audette's ladder and it is a great system but I found it only really works if you shoot the ladder at 300 yards or more. I don't have the luxury of a 300 yard range where I can do my 'load testing', so i settled with the .2g increments and 5 shot group @ 100 yards method!

All the best

K

K, thanks for that. I was going to try 3 shot groups, but after reading all the advice, i think, i to will try Turtles method. I haven't tried any yet as i'm still awaiting my new chrono. Thanks again, Ken.